tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5538168516484281571.post2043908013047682212..comments2018-07-16T03:31:52.190-07:00Comments on The Art of Thinking Praxis: If the Berlin Wall falls in a forest, and nobody hears it, does it still make history?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5538168516484281571.post-51723996580189332642011-03-10T14:23:01.268-08:002011-03-10T14:23:01.268-08:00Not at all. Nothing is best left to so-called prof...Not at all. Nothing is best left to so-called professionals (in my amatuer opinion). Especially so-called philosophy. In fact, the "Society of the Spectacle" depends on all us NOT becoming theorists....Belvinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10353139594156329202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5538168516484281571.post-86256929107524836862011-03-08T03:56:28.281-08:002011-03-08T03:56:28.281-08:00um, above probably more bad-tempered than it need ...um, above probably more bad-tempered than it need be. Sorry. Perhaps I'd best leave Butler to the professionals :)Dan O'Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16056171537827957715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5538168516484281571.post-46666465277512270902011-03-08T03:55:06.882-08:002011-03-08T03:55:06.882-08:00"Butler is never taking the emotions or rathe..."Butler is never taking the emotions or rather affects of individuals as the basis of any framework"<br /><br />I freely admit I have only the haziest idea of what she's talking about, and find it near impossible to pin her down to any clear or usable statement (and would therefore ignore her completely were it not for your interest in her). <br /><br />But: she spends most of the 1st chapter of Frames of War discussing how great it would be if we devoted more attention to the physical vulnerability of human lives. I'm saying there is no reason why the target of affect should be a person, and that affect about a person is no more beneficial than about a group or an event.<br /><br />[I have, incidentally, a very fundamental disagreement with the idea that our political engagement should be driven by emotion rather than evidence and logic. But that's another debate]Dan O'Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16056171537827957715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5538168516484281571.post-30281591395310251782011-03-08T03:38:07.473-08:002011-03-08T03:38:07.473-08:00All ist klar. I also should add that in my reading...All ist klar. I also should add that in my reading of Butler (which is what prefaces all my remarks on her work of course) her framework is irreducibly relational: this is always the crucial point. Hence, the need to clarify. So shall we add both you recommended above? <br />Thanks!Belvinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10353139594156329202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5538168516484281571.post-70854186798302976302011-03-08T03:30:50.378-08:002011-03-08T03:30:50.378-08:00'irrelevant' not generally, but to the top...'irrelevant' not generally, but to the topic I was interested in. Possibly seems less dismissive if you realise that I was basically writing down my thought process: "This is happening in the world. Maybe Butler can help me understand it? No, she's writing about things which sound similar, but can't help me understand Egypt"Dan O'Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16056171537827957715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5538168516484281571.post-31094857299334045432011-03-08T03:24:24.146-08:002011-03-08T03:24:24.146-08:00Quick answers:
1. I don't know the website -- ...Quick answers:<br />1. I don't know the website -- I just found it through google news, looking for a summary of the issue. I'd be more inclined to recommend <a href="http://www.jadaliyya.com/" rel="nofollow">Jadaliyya</a> (which is fairly sympathetic to theory, queer issues and Butler), or <a href="http://www.arabist.net/" rel="nofollow">arabist.net</a> (which has linked to us). I've nothing against linking to Al Masry Al Youm -- I just don't know anything about it.<br /><br />2. oops. fixedDan O'Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16056171537827957715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5538168516484281571.post-64699505163747067752011-03-08T02:01:30.156-08:002011-03-08T02:01:30.156-08:00The kind of strong, historical contextualizing we ...The kind of strong, historical contextualizing we need to understand that we are not trapped in our little geographical islands, however important those actions we take locally are. <br />But Butler is never taking the emotions or rather affects of individuals as the basis of any framework, and it's hard to see why one might say so. I'm interested. Furthermore, while assertive journalistic language can be admirable, to say that a philosophy makes itself irrelevant, especially one of a philosopher who has spent her life making work relevant to all of our lives is too quick, to say the least. I see that here it functions as a trope, where a certain point of view is ultimately redeemed in the text, and yet I wonder about its timing. Which is to say that<br />finally, the last beautiful sentence, or fragment: in my tricky theoretical heart, I like to first ask what things mean, to refer back to the author's intention. Perhaps this is in fact less dubious and more genuine than one would allow. But the question remains: is a shared sense of time, given that we live in a world of irreducibly different times necessary?<br />Is a foundation itself the right way to understand what we need for a community? What is a community? <br />Forgive these questions, which know well enough that they cannot be answered in a sentence or a small group in a life time, for we will have to have tried in any case, to enter those multiplicities even if it be in the future anterior. <br />Questions: <br />1. Shall we add http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en to the list of websites on the right? <br />2. Did you mean France in 1789, rather than 1989 (the storming of the Bastille?)<br />M.Belvinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10353139594156329202noreply@blogger.com